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Related Topics Roth IRA Conversions
http://www.futureofcapitalism.com/2010/12/roth-ira-conversions
Bloomberg News has an article on taxes that runs under the headline "Tax Passage Gives U.S. Wealthy Interest-Free Loans for Roth IRA Transfers." It begins:
This strikes me as a very strange way of looking at it. For one thing, the rules on Roth conversions apply equally to everyone. There's no income or asset test. So Bloomberg's harping on "wealthy taxpayers" and "wealthy savers" is just class-warfare hype. If a non-wealthy taxpayer wants to move the Roth conversion income into 2011 or 2012, he or she can do that, too. For another thing, the idea that the government is "giving" someone an "interest free loan" by allowing the person to pay taxes on their own money in 2011 or 2012 rather than when they retire is just odd. Take a 40 year old who expects to retire at age 65 in 2035 and has $100,000 in a regular IRA. If the 40-year-old does the Roth conversion, he has to pay income tax on the $100,000 — which could be $35,000, plus state income taxes — in 2010, 2011, or 2012. If he chooses not to do a Roth conversion and decides instead to stick with the regular IRA, he doesn't have to pay any taxes on the $100,000 until 2035. Who is giving whom the "interest free loan"? Is it the government giving a loan, for allowing someone to defer until 2012 taxes that would have been owed in 2010? Or is it the taxpayer giving the government a loan by paying taxes in 2012 that otherwise wouldn't have been due until at least 2035? As to whether it is "the deal of the century," that depends on what you think tax rates are going to be in 2035 (or whenever you retire), or, more particularly, what you think your own tax rate will be during retirement. Maybe by then America will have moved to a system under which consumption is taxed, rather than income, and the income tax rate will be zero. Maybe by then we will have moved to a Bowles-Simpson style tax reform under which the base is broadened and rates are lowered, and the top marginal tax rate will be 23%. Maybe by 2035 you'll have died, and your much younger second spouse, who you had named your IRA beneficiary, won't have to worry about paying taxes on what is now her IRA until she retires in 2055. Maybe by then tax rates will have increased, and the charitable deduction you can get by donating your IRA to charity will be worth more then than it is now. Characterizing the tax policy as some kind of giveaway to the wealthy tells more about the mindset of the Bloomberg editor and reporter than about the underlying reality of the situation. by Ira Stoll | Dec 23, 2010 at 10:22 am Related Topics: Taxes receive the latest by email: subscribe to the free futureofcapitalism.com mailing list Reader comments on this item
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