CAFE is the problem.

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Submitted by James (United States), Jul 6, 2019 18:33

It wasn't just wagons, it was large sedans and even light trucks under 8,500 lbs GVWR (half tons).

CAFE regulations mandated an average fuel economy, these rolled out in the Carter era late 70s. At the same time cars got much smaller and pickup truck sales took off. SUVs had been around prior, but their sales weren't a large portion of the market.
As fullsized cars got smaller, so did wagons not just in size, but capacity, and engines.
Customers still wanted a large vehicle with a larger engine, and this is where pickups and SUVs took off.
Minivans were a different outcome. Most had deplorable safety ratings, and the Chrysler vans were small and underpowered, netting relatively poor fuel economy. But they had passenger capacity, without the same fuel economy or safety regulations. This is important. Your land barge staionwagon was rarely more than a couple inches longer than the sedan counterpart, but had to meet the same sedan crash worthiness, fuel economy, and design requirements.
This is more than a death of station wagons effect, it has largely impacted sedan sales as Cross-Over-Utility-Vehicles continue to grow in popularity.
All of this comes at a price and it is the Consumer who pays the price. Large sedans, which even V8 sedans, are more fuel efficient overall than mdisized V6 SUVs, are expensive and often in the luxury market. Small sedans are left to carry the burden of CAFE, so vehicles with questionable safety ratings, remember all crash test scores are based on a collision with a vehicle of similar mass, are sold to the lowest income earners. Same story, the rich can afford bigger, safer, than the poor. Well, pickups balance that out to a degree, and that upsets folks who want to take away free choice.
Who wants to drive a V8, land barge?
The person who asks: who wants to drive a tiny little compact that doesn't do well in a crash against a pickup.

I occasionally get asked about my 3/4 ton diesel truck. Why do I need it, it is a monstrous beast, questions about my manhood, etc. Mostly from leftists and busy-Body types. But my diesel truck gets better fuel economy than my sister's Grand Caravan. My diesel truck can haul my equipment I use to make a living, where a 1/2 ton would have a much shorter life and struggle with the load. My diesel truck has 2 bench seats. Myself, my wife, the 3 kids, and the dog, we all can roll together. My wife has a mid sized SUV that fits 3 car seats. Her 20mpg, is slightly better than my 18mpg, both in mixed driving.

CAFE was a 4 lane divided good intentioned highway that led straight to the hell we are in now.


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